Several weeks ago I attended the Open Innovation Summit in Orlando, Florida. You can read a transcript of live Twitter coverage from that conference here, and two very good wrap-up posts from Braden Kelley at Blogging Innovation here and here.
While at that conference I got the chance to meet and speak with Ric Merrifield, business architect at Microsoft and author of Re-Think: A Business Manifesto for Cutting Costs and Boosting Innovation. I had interviewed Ric by phone back in the summer when the book came out, and meeting him reminded me to dust off the interview and publish it. He has a lot of interesting things to say to innovators, particularly about questioning assumptions. Here's the interview:
Q. Tell me about Re-Think.
A. The unifying principle of Rethink is the fairly simple notion that companies are so attached to “how” they go about doing everything from day-to-day activities to work that it can be very difficult for them to see really obvious opportunities for changing something, whether it’s innovation or cost-cutting or what have you. So, for example, they associate the route they take to their favorite restaurant – how they get there – with the outcome of arriving on time. So much so, that when somebody drives a different way, they say well, why are we going this way? But it usually doesn’t matter how you get there as long as you get there on time.
So framing it that way is a totally human condition. If you walk up to somebody at the fax machine and ask them what they’re doing, they’ll probably look at you a little funny and say “Well, I’m sending a fax.” And if you use conventional productivity tools and analysis you’ll often say, “Is sending a fax part of a necessary workflow or step in your job that you have to do to accomplish whatever it is you’re trying to accomplish,” and they’ll probably say yes. So if you’re doing a business requirements document, you’ll write down that sending a fax is a necessary step for whatever function that person does.
Whereas, I would go in and, not knowing anything about the industry, I can say definitively that sending a fax is not the requirement. The requirement is going to be more like “communicating the status of something” or “confirming an order.” If you then go back and say, “OK. What you’re doing is either communicating a status or confirming an order, or something along those lines,” and have a discussion about exactly THAT what, and note that HOW the person is doing it today is with a fax machine. The person will say “oh, OK, that makes sense.”
And what you’ve done there is disentangle this “what” from the “how” in a way that’s very non-threatening to the end user. I don’t know anything about their business, but I’ve led them to open up this opportunity to separate the “what” from the “how,” and then asked the question, “Is it really relevant to use the fax machine? Could you use email, could you automate it, could you outsource it?” All of those “how” questions could then emerge, and from there we can get into more value discussions, such as, “what would be the value to you of doing this differently? Is one of our competitors doing this so differently from us that maybe we should think about innovating in it?” And it goes from there.
Q: So I want to go back to the part where you get the people to focus on the “what” rather than the “how.” You did that by essentially asking them what they were trying to do. Does that work?
A. It does, as long as you can get to the “what” discussion quickly. It’s more important to start to get into the value and performance discussions, so you can find out where it makes sense to ask cost-cutting questions, outsourcing questions, innovation questions, which will also obviously inform strategy. “How” verbs have a very common thread to them, like faxing, emailing, phone, truck, all those things are what I call “trap” verbs. The “untrap” verbs, which are more like communicate, confirm, are lighter weight and don’t have any of the “how” baggage.
Another example: checking in at the airport is really encumbered with some language that doesn’t add any value in the sense that you’re talking about airlines and airports. The three “whats” really going on there are confirming an order, completing a survey, and doing some logistics if you’ve got luggage. When you sort of open that up, you go, wow, if we’re really looking at reservation surveys and logistics, you can look across a whole range of industries for best practices and best process steps and different technology opportunities, whereas you get a much, much narrower focus if you start by saying, let’s look within the airline industry for best practices. Which is not necessarily going to give you bad answers, but it can be really limiting. If something like innovation is what you need to do, a lot of the best innovations come from other industries and seemingly improbable places. Stripping this “how” language away makes it a lot more obvious.
Q. Can you say more about using this approach to innovate?
A. A lot of people don’t have a definition of innovation, but just throw the word around like everybody knows what it means. Innovation to me is changing something so radically that it doesn’t resemble what it was before. So, Netflix has an innovative marketing model for renting videos. They don’t have a store, anymore. The videos come through the mail, there are no late fees, all kinds of really innovative ways for people to have the video rental experience. Innovation can happen at the operating model level, in the case of Netflix, or at the very tactical level, like outsourcing the bank teller in the case of the ATM. That was really innovative. That’s a pretty tactical thing in the retail banking world. Same thing is true of airport check-in.
Nobody has something like continuous improvement on their to-do list in a given day. It’s not something you can check off. Innovation’s different in the sense that every time you evaluate a piece of work you should say, let’s look at it. What is the problem or opportunity? Is it too expensive, do we need to cut costs, and if so maybe innovation is a way to do that. I think a lot of people make the mistake of seeing cost-cutting and innovation as mutually exclusive. That’s a huge mistake because a lot of the biggest opportunities for cost-cutting *are* innovation. Again, it’s the “how are we going to get there?” discussion. If it’s innovation, what does that mean to us and how different does it need to be to accomplish the outcome that we need to get to? Either from competitive pressure, a response to competition, or acting on an opportunity that’s untapped at this point.
Q. So you’re looking at creating efficiencies, but you’re also looking at spotting opportunities.
A. Right. It’s “what outcome do we want to achieve overall?” And, does that require a minor modification in day-to-day operations to get to that, or does it require a radical shift in the work that will be innovative that would be so different than what was there before that we won’t recognize it? I talk about ING Direct in the book as having some great innovations. The fact that they eliminate the ability to write paper checks eliminates the entire department that handles bad checks. So that whole cost is gone in their model.
Q. So nowadays people are primarily focused on cost-cutting it seems, and your Rethink method is a definite way to do that. Where do people go wrong when they start cutting costs?
A. Especially today they’re going wrong in some big ways. One I’ve mentioned already is they think about cost-cutting and innovation as mutually exclusive, which is a big mistake. A second is that so many people have been in growth mode for so long that the muscles we’ve built up have been in keeping up with the growth of the business and we’ve sort of here and there done some cost-cutting, but have been too busy chopping wood to stop and sharpen our axe. We’ve allowed or been tolerant of a certain amount of fat and inefficiency to grow in our models just because we’re so busy keeping up we can’t also do this cost-cutting. When people go into it now they think, oh we can do some nip-and-tuck sort of cutting. But there’s so much fat that’s grown in organizations. Twenty to 40 percent of the operating budget is fat, either from unnecessarily repetitive and redundant processes or just unnecessary work. I tell people to expect to find that level of cost-cutting as an opportunity. If they’re not then they’re probably looking at it the wrong way.
The other piece that in this specific situation as we see organizations retracting and seeing flat growth at best, what that means is that instead of being in this growth mode where you’re trying to attract as many different segments of customers as you can, and you’re sort of trying to be all things to all people, organizations have to decide who is and is not their most valuable customer. And to do that you have to turn your back on some customers. That really means the management team has to sit down and say, who are we, what is our brand and identity, and how are we going to Lego-block that to a specific set of customers.

One of the most enjoyable sessions I saw at the World Business Forum was an interview with filmmaker George Lucas. Quite striking was the degree to which both serendipity and fate were intertwined in his education and early career. Also striking was seeing film clips of one after another scene showing a way in which Lucas has innovated.
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